View Full Version : John Williams (Antares 20E) World Record 1500 O&R claim pending
Dave Nadler
December 1st 09, 12:16 PM
Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:
http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
Way to go John !
PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:
http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=olc&sp=2007&c=C5&sc=
Darryl Ramm
December 1st 09, 04:07 PM
On Dec 1, 4:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> Way to go John !
>
> PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
Great flight and a nice blog to read. Dave any idea how they deal with
ENL recording with the Antares or are they aerotowing with a sealed
engine?
Darryl
Dave Nadler
December 1st 09, 04:20 PM
On Dec 1, 11:07*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 4:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> > Way to go John !
>
> > PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
>
> Great flight and a nice blog to read. Dave any idea how they deal with
> ENL recording with the Antares or are they aerotowing with a sealed
> engine?
>
> Darryl
No idea, nor any idea why there's been a fuss about this.
Any engine operation is easily visible on the noise recording
in mine, either in the Volksloger or FLARM IGC files.
Its not "you must wear hearing protection or you will damage
your hearing" like other motor-gliders, but it is noisy enough...
See ya, Dave "YO electric"
PS: You can see this in any of my flights:
http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightbook.html?sp=2009&st=olc&rt=olc&pi=20684
Darryl Ramm
December 1st 09, 07:00 PM
On Dec 1, 8:20*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 11:07*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 4:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > > Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> > > Way to go John !
>
> > > PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
>
> > Great flight and a nice blog to read. Dave any idea how they deal with
> > ENL recording with the Antares or are they aerotowing with a sealed
> > engine?
>
> > Darryl
>
> No idea, nor any idea why there's been a fuss about this.
> Any engine operation is easily visible on the noise recording
> in mine, either in the Volksloger or FLARM IGC files.
> Its not "you must wear hearing protection or you will damage
> your hearing" like other motor-gliders, but it is noisy enough...
>
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> PS: You can see this in any of my flights:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightbook.html?sp=2009&...
Dave
I had always assumed that the concern was more use of partial power.
Thanks
Darryl
ps. SAY AGAIN, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT BEARING DAMAGE? :-)
Dave Nadler
December 2nd 09, 01:22 AM
On Dec 1, 2:00*pm, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 8:20*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 11:07*am, Darryl Ramm > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 1, 4:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > > > Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> > > > Way to go John !
>
> > > > PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
>
> > > Great flight and a nice blog to read. Dave any idea how they deal with
> > > ENL recording with the Antares or are they aerotowing with a sealed
> > > engine?
>
> > > Darryl
>
> > No idea, nor any idea why there's been a fuss about this.
> > Any engine operation is easily visible on the noise recording
> > in mine, either in the Volksloger or FLARM IGC files.
> > Its not "you must wear hearing protection or you will damage
> > your hearing" like other motor-gliders, but it is noisy enough...
>
> > See ya, Dave "YO electric"
>
> > PS: You can see this in any of my flights:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightbook.html?sp=2009&...
>
> Dave
>
> I had always assumed that the concern was more use of partial power.
Still makes a racket, especially extending and retracting the pylon
(the hydraulic motor is running and the engine bay doors
are open)... Really its all quite silly !
> Thanks
> Darryl
>
> ps. SAY AGAIN, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT BEARING DAMAGE? :-)
Yup, I know some pilots like that. I don't bother with the headset for
airstarts, though I sometimes use it on the ground to be sure and
hear any radio calls...
See ya, Dave "YO electric"
Dave Nadler
December 3rd 09, 02:15 PM
On Dec 1, 7:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> Way to go John !
>
> PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
John just posted some video from his flight.
Wow ! Ever seen your altimeter go up this fast ?
http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
Some stats:
Declared 1551 km task
Average speed of 180.3 kph (97.4 kts).
This beat the old record of 177.3 kph (95,7 kts) set by Klaus Ohlmann
and Regis Kuntz.
Looks like a good start for John's first time in the Andes !
Best Regards, Dave "YO elcetric"
Juan[_2_]
December 3rd 09, 07:21 PM
On Dec 3, 9:15*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 7:16*am, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > Should be a new world record for 1500km O&R:http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
> > Way to go John !
>
> > PS: John also won overall European OLC championship in 2007:http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/champion.html?st=olc&rt=...
>
> John just posted some video from his flight.
> Wow ! Ever seen your altimeter go up this fast ?http://scottishglidingcentre.com/blog/
>
It's actually an electric clock, runs off the big batteries :-)
bagmaker
December 8th 09, 09:37 PM
I note that some speeds exceed 335kmh at altitudes above 10000ft.
Is the Antares rated for this or is it modified to reduce flutter?
bagger
johngalloway[_2_]
December 9th 09, 08:30 AM
On Dec 8, 9:37*pm, bagmaker >
wrote:
> I note that some speeds exceed 335kmh at altitudes above 10000ft.
> Is the Antares rated for this or is it modified to reduce flutter?
>
> bagger
>
> --
> bagmaker
Are you thinking that JDW was flying at 180kts IAS?
John Galloway
Bruce
December 9th 09, 08:44 AM
johngalloway wrote:
> On Dec 8, 9:37 pm, bagmaker >
> wrote:
>> I note that some speeds exceed 335kmh at altitudes above 10000ft.
>> Is the Antares rated for this or is it modified to reduce flutter?
>>
>> bagger
>>
>> --
>> bagmaker
>
> Are you thinking that JDW was flying at 180kts IAS?
>
> John Galloway
One assumes that tail winds and the like were involved...
Look at the ground speeds on Klaus Ohmlman's logs - Nimbus 4 with
sustained ground speeds in the 300km/h+ range! Same circumstances.
Bruce
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